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Alexander "the Great"?
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Istor the Macedonian
2008-05-17 14:27:06 UTC
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You only soil yourself by calling other netgroup posters name like whore.
As for what I wrote, it is not in opposition to Anastasios being a
Latino/Greek term having a Christian meaning. When St. Nicholas of Myra
was bishop, Latin was the official Byzantine language. It didn't change
to Greek until Justinian. Note that your behind the name weblink
provides the name in one form of Latin
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My dear putanitsa, the name-word 'Anastasios' CANNOT be of Latin
origin because no word anistamai ( to rise) is there.
The name is Greek, derived by Greek people and borrowed into Latin and
other languages in different forms.
Istor the Macedonian
2008-06-03 18:51:30 UTC
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What's a Greek education? Does this disqualify non-Greek-speakers -
say - born outside of Greece to Greek parents? Concomitantly, is it
possible to be Greek *and* something else? Is there such a thing as a
Greek-Canadian or Greek-Australian? If the answer to this is yes, then
is it possible to be a Chinese Greek or a Peruvian Greek?
Greek education means Homer and his descents down the ages. Non-Greek
speakers who deny learning Greek and teaching Greek to their pupils
are not Greek. Soon or lated their descents will loose their
Greekness. Greek-Canadian is either an ethnic Greek citizen of Canada.
He probably lies in the middle of those identities. Chinese Greek? If
ever Greeks accept this, then yes.
What matters in ethnicity is
not the unifying element but its strongness.
I agree. But again, one gets hopelessly bogged down in the fine print.
Definition becomes all but impossible.
maybe we belong to an ethnic group by negation: Bulgarians lost many
slavophones of Macedonia because they wanted them identical to
Bulgarian "identity" asap. They violated them and they lost them.
Socrates was father of reasoning.
This is why I get somewhat confused when I follow his method and yet
am still somehow seen as irrational and emotional. If I were (for
Well, there are many things in human nature our of reasoning. We
Greeks feel pretty well living with them. Read any Greek tragedy, you
will see. Medea?
The fact that we have not a tool
which says us if someone belongs to our ethnicity, does not mean that
every one can be Greek at any time, despite what he does or says.
Fair enough. But what is the deciding factor, and who gets to make the
decision?
There is no such a factor because AT ANY TIME OF MY LIFE, even when
killing myself for Greekness I could change my ethnicity and decide to
be something else.

Ethnicity is more definitionable or visible and stable when we refer
to a WHOLE people: family, village, city, state..... If such people
speak Greek and teach greek .
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We would have less bloodshed in the World IF GP's were less inhuman
and didn't make WAR for their people's daily COCA-COLA while other
peoples have not even bred.
I agree 100%.
Istor
Macedonian, therefore Greek.
Istor the Macedonian
2008-06-03 18:55:13 UTC
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Post by Istor the Macedonian
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What's a Greek education? Does this disqualify non-Greek-speakers -
say - born outside of Greece to Greek parents? Concomitantly, is it
possible to be Greek *and* something else? Is there such a thing as a
Greek-Canadian or Greek-Australian? If the answer to this is yes, then
is it possible to be a Chinese Greek or a Peruvian Greek?
Greek education means Homer and his descents down the ages. Non-Greek
speakers who deny learning Greek and teaching Greek to their pupils
are not Greek. Soon or lated their descents will loose their
Greekness. Greek-Canadian is either an ethnic Greek citizen of Canada.
He probably lies in the middle of those identities. Chinese Greek? If
ever Greeks accept this, then yes.
What matters in ethnicity is
not the unifying element but its strongness.
I agree. But again, one gets hopelessly bogged down in the fine print.
Definition becomes all but impossible.
maybe we belong to an ethnic group by negation: Bulgarians lost many
slavophones of Macedonia because they wanted them identical to
Bulgarian "identity" asap. They violated them and they lost them.
Socrates was father of reasoning.
This is why I get somewhat confused when I follow his method and yet
am still somehow seen as irrational and emotional. If I were (for
Well, there are many things in human nature our of reasoning. We
Greeks feel pretty well living with them. Read any Greek tragedy, you
will see. Medea?
The fact that we have not a tool
which says us if someone belongs to our ethnicity, does not mean that
every one can be Greek at any time, despite what he does or says.
Fair enough. But what is the deciding factor, and who gets to make the
decision?
There is no such a factor because AT ANY TIME OF MY LIFE, even when
killing myself for Greekness I could change my ethnicity and decide to
be something else.
Ethnicity is more definitionable or visible and stable when we refer
to a WHOLE people: family, village, city, state..... If such people
speak Greek and teach greek .
-+
We would have less bloodshed in the World IF GP's were less inhuman
and didn't make WAR for their people's daily COCA-COLA while other
peoples have not even bred.
I agree 100%.
Istor
Macedonian, therefore Greek.
Allow me continue my words:
Ethnicity is more definitionable or visible and stable when we refer
to a WHOLE people that an isolated person: family, village, city,
state..... If such people
speak Greek and teach Greek to their pupils then they are Greek. As
long as they do that. Because Greek education affiliates those people
with Greeks and Greekness. This is what Greekness is.

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